Forgive my ignorance: info needed

[James Williams]

Originally Posted by oldman

Wow , soon there won't be any car based engines being used at all in any class, I think another well known hillclimber is converting a very fast single seater to bike power instead of his BDG, maybe the time is coming to think about whether or not there may be room for another single seater class with a separation of the normally aspirated bike powered cars in the two litre class as the heavier car engined cars just won't be at all competitive, the 1600 n/a class will be the place to be with Will and Eynon gone else where, it won't be long before a bike engined car takes the BHC thats for sure.

The 1600 class was just like this in the early 2000s. The HSA did a split class for 1600 bike and car engined cars but it never made it to a national level. Eventually all the car engined cars pretty much disappeared (Jim Bassett probably been the last really competitive entrant) although a few do appear from time to time. Unfortunatley the 2L class, potentially, is looking at going the same way. (Unless of course the TKD V8 can compete!)

Sorry Graham - off topic. Could you convert your car to fuel injection/management?

[Lolat492]

Engine not ran since top end rebuild.
Specialist has built 911 engines for 32 years, factory trained and set the cams for me last time too.
Take your point about old parts which i still have, Good idea to swop them back.

Will a bike engined car win the British?
Every chance but will need a mustard driver.

My money is on Will Hall for 2012, but a Raptor might be close too.

[spd(john)]

Tin Top for 2013.....Its going to rain all year....

[grahamb]

Originally Posted by spd(john)

Tin Top for 2013.....Its going to rain all year....

LOL at least you don't need to carry the weight of a Brolly in a TT

[Steve Wilkinson]

Originally Posted by James Williams

The 1600 class was just like this in the early 2000s. The HSA did a split class for 1600 bike and car engined cars but it never made it to a national level. Eventually all the car engined cars pretty much disappeared (Jim Bassett probably been the last really competitive entrant) although a few do appear from time to time. Unfortunatley the 2L class, potentially, is looking at going the same way. (Unless of course the TKD V8 can compete!)

Surely the TKD V8 is bike-engined based? The writing was on the wall when the 1200 and 1300 bike engines began to emerge. Maybe it needs a bit of lateral thinking and to split the 1100 and 1600 classes up. With a class A for car engines and a class B for bike engines. A similar approach used to be taken with the 500cc class with the ex-F3 500s in one class and the Moderns in another, Shelsley in particular did this regularly.

Originally Posted by Lolat492

Will a bike engined car win the British?
Every chance but will need a mustard driver.

Unless we have a particularly wet year I doubt that (a) many 1100 runners will get into the Top 12 Run-offs, and (b) that there will be more than half a dozen wins for the 1600 class runners. What might be more significant would be if one of the supercharged bike engined runners in the 2 litre class suddenly developed reliabilty as one such car might just be able to score top three places consistantly and thus challenge for the title.

[andylaurence]

Why does every thread at the moment result in a suggestion of creating more classes?

@Steve - a 'Busa is a GSXR! It's a fair point though as the GSXR1000 is lighter, not far short on power and two of them would sneak in under 2000cc (999cc each).

As far as chains go, they don't spread much grease. The greasy moment for me in 2011 was when a CV gaiter split - all sorts of mess!

[oldman]

At least the TKD V8 is N/A and weighs much the same as the car engined 2.0 litre cars in class K, so its still a pretty level playing field unlike the turbo/supercharged cars that are up to 150kg lighter and have another 50 or more bhp advantage over production car derived engines.

[andylaurence]

Is the TKD that heavy? The Hartley V8 is about 90kg and the TKD is supposed to be just 86kg. That's only a gearbox heavier than a 'Busa and, whilst a world away from a Duratec, is not 150kg lighter. ~160-170kg for a Duratec, I would imagine. Even a Chevy LS3 crate engine is under 200kg dry.

[oldman]

Having spoken to Terry about his V8 as far as i can remember his engine weighs around 90kg about the same as a Millington and the transmission must weigh a similar amount as that of an FTR Hewland I know my KV6 is slightly more than that again, so a blown bike eng/transmission unit is very much lighter making the whole bike/eng car something like 120/140 kg lighter than the car derived engine race cars

[ancillotti rob]

Graham

Not sure this is any good to you, i know you are considering a few options at the moment.

This v6 would sound great not sure of weight.

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