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Old 08-02-18, 18:52
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Roll cage needed for overseas hill climb?

As per title, are roll cages mandatory for overseas hillclimbs? I've looked at St. Goueno regulations and they appear to state a cage is necessary, although I don't know if this is because "no standard cars" are allowed, and therefore car would be modified and need a cage. I'm not sure if this is unique to St. Goueno or generally applies to other overseas hillclimbs?
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Old 09-02-18, 10:20
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As far as I'm aware there is no Road Going Category in Europe so effectively you start in Mod Prod but even our Mod Prod cage rules fall short of FIA ones.
When I bought my cage for the Clio I got if from an Italian manufacturer "Sassa" and it was built to FIA standards with 50mm main hoop and 40mm for everything else.
I'm not sure thou if that meets or exceeds the FIA standards?
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Old 09-02-18, 10:25
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After a bit of scouring through the FIA Regs it appears the minimum cage requirements for Europrean Hill Climbing is the same as Group N;
6 point cage minimum, main hoop has to be either 50 x 2.0mm or 45 x 2.5mm and all other bars making up the main cage either 40 x 2.0mm or 38 x 2.5mm.

Here's the regs in question they are incredible indepth (as you'd expect)
https://www.fia.com/file/64338/downl...token=bYdP34ak

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As per title, are roll cages mandatory for overseas hillclimbs? I've looked at St. Goueno regulations and they appear to state a cage is necessary, although I don't know if this is because "no standard cars" are allowed, and therefore car would be modified and need a cage. I'm not sure if this is unique to St. Goueno or generally applies to other overseas hillclimbs?
Any advice appreciated.
If your going to run with the British you run to British regs so no need
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Old 09-02-18, 13:02
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If you are running in standard road going you wont need a roll cage. However you will need a fire extinguisher but this can be hand held as opposed to plumbed in and you can use the normal road going seat belts. You will also need a HANS device, depending on age of vehicle. You don't give your name so I don't know if you have an entry to St. Goueno. If you have then consult the regs as published by St. Goueno Masters............
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Old 09-02-18, 15:53
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If you are running in standard road going you wont need a roll cage. However you will need a fire extinguisher but this can be hand held as opposed to plumbed in and you can use the normal road going seat belts. You will also need a HANS device, depending on age of vehicle. You don't give your name so I don't know if you have an entry to St. Goueno. If you have then consult the regs as published by St. Goueno Masters............
The Regs say
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HANS device to be worn by drivers of all cars with the exception of cars first manufactured before 1977*.
Helmet which complies with current M.I. or M.S.A. requirement for hillclimbs with Hans posts (*see 1 above).
Race suit which complies with current M..I or M.SA. requirement for hillclimbs.
Gloves to FIA standard.
Drivers of single seaters & sports racers must wear a balaclava.

Competition car

*Sand Racing type cars are not permitted.
*Standard road cars without roll over protection and Hans* not permitted.

Fire extinguisher

Closed, sports convertible and 7esque cars. . . 2kg hand held minimum.
Single seaters/sports racers . . . plumbed in 2kg minimum.

Harness:

Modified saloons/sports . . . FIA 4 point Hans compatible, in date.
Single seater/sports racers . . . FIA 6 point Hans compatible, in date.
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Old 09-02-18, 18:06
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Thanks for the replies.
I've not registered for this year, (thinking for next year now).
I've read the regs. and this was the bit that had me wondering :
Standard road cars without roll over protection and Hans* not permitted.
My car is production A4, so would I need a cage.
Everything else appears straight forward.
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