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Old 06-10-17, 10:09
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It's the fact he has been banned from competing that doesn't sit well with me.....it would be like a criminal court banning someone from driving for being drunk on a bicycle or in charge of children. If he wasn't a competitor what would they have done then?
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Think the official reaction way over the top, "for bringing the sport into disrepute" when most of us drop our romper suits off then get changed at the end of a meeting, all very sad
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Think the official reaction way over the top, "for bringing the sport into disrepute" when most of us drop our romper suits off then get changed at the end of a meeting, all very sad
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Remember someone ran round Knockhill in their underpants! (Not mentioning any names) To raise money IIRC

Maybe Jock should have said he was doing it for charity
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It's the fact he has been banned from competing that doesn't sit well with me.....it would be like a criminal court banning someone from driving for being drunk on a bicycle or in charge of children. If he wasn't a competitor what would they have done then?
Thats the bit I don't like about it. The only reason they had any hold on him was that he had a competition licence. Abuse of power IMHO
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Other past rulings from 'The Court' suggest that the penalty is totally disproportionate. Examples include Kart competitors punching other competitors/officials, illegal modifications to Karts/cars, drivers forcing others off the track, blatant disregard for safety etc etc. all with lesser punishments than Jock received!
They really have lost the plot with this one.
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I remember reading about a Lads Dad throwing a Kart Engine through the scrutineers caravan window during a dispute- makes this seem somewhat harsh...
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Well if they haven't got enough marshals for the Rally GB as a result you can bet the decision will be " reviewed " pretty sharpish !
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From Tat Book

Jolly japes no more ... Scottish rallying without Jock Armstrong is like Irn Bru without the girders, but the double Scottish Rally Champion looks like he will be on enforced leave for a few months.
Following an incident on the Solway Coast Rally in August his actions were reported to the Motor Sports Association who referred the matter to the Motor Sports Council National Court and the case was heard yesterday following which the judgement was publicised today.
As a result Jock's licence has been suspended for 6 months and he has been fined £1000. So what transgression merited such a punishment?
Jock had volunteered to Marshal on the Solway Coast, but since he had been posted to a rather lonely spot in the MoD wilderness it can only be supposed that a certain amount of boredom crept into his duties. It wasn't as if he was marshalling a spectator area or even a junction. His task was to man a cattle grid!
Anyway, he just happened to drop his trousers and bare his buttocks to a friend who was passing by at a non competitive speed. Unfortunately, a photograph of the incident was taken in which the culprit was immediately identifiable and duly appeared on Social Media. Which begs the question, how many folk recognised him by his bum? A worrying thought indeed.
There was no malice intended, and none taken by the 'victim', but Jock paid the price yesterday. Despite the fact there were no spectators in the area (this is strictly controlled MoD property after all) and no competitors or rally officials made a complaint, the judgement was handed down.
At a time when the sport is so short of marshals, and Jock is one of very few competitors to ever volunteer to do so, this does seem a bit heavy handed.
However, it would appear that certain parties within the ongoing FAI in Edinburgh got to hear about this, hence Motor Sport Council's unease and their subsequent National Court proceedings.
I have no idea who the three National Court 'judges' are, although I understand two have racing backgrounds and the other in safety/training, but one does wonder if they have forgotten that the initial motor sporting attraction for most of us was fun and enjoyment as well as competition and participation. Things have reached a sorry state these days, eh?
We've all done something silly, and even stupid, in the past, and this latest incident is no different, albeit caught on camera, but surely this penalty is quite excessive. By all means ban such a miscreant from marshalling - but a fine? And a competition licence suspension? If they thought that would be the end of the matter they have seriously mis-judged social media - and the Scots.
It's not clear from the Blue Book (Appendix 4) if an Appeal can be made against the National Court's decision, but if there is an acceptance of the charge in return for mitigation then perhaps that avenue is closed. It seems a pretty steep price to pay for honesty.
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Old 06-10-17, 19:33
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i would like to see things from their viewpoint but as the saying goes i cannot fit my head that far up the you know what,being polite to prevent bringing the sport into disrepute. they should live on my estate and experience some other ways of life. showing your arse wouldn't even be noticed
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So the moral of the story is "never admit guilt" - I doubt he could have been identified from the photo alone. Good decision there from the powers that be ...
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