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Old 20-10-17, 07:45
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Why are we discriminated against?

I've just purchased a car that has been used for circuit racing, when I asked to see the vehicles MSA logbook / passport, the reply was "what's that then?".
Somewhat shocked to discover that they are not required for circuit racing!
We have to have one to run our cars up a short hill but it's not required if we want to drive it around Silverstone
Seems somewhat unfair to me
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Old 20-10-17, 08:27
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I believe the intention was to 'roll it out' across all disciplines but for some reason the MSA decided not to continue with the project. Personally I think they should have cancelled the concept within Speed Events and refunded the costs to the competitors.
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Old 20-10-17, 08:56
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being a cynical chap the only reason for log books i can see is that it's an easy way for the MSA to rob even more money from you
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Old 20-10-17, 08:58
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Tend to agree. My new Zeus hasn't got a Passport (or required one) and was used in OSS endurance racing but for Sprinting I need a ROPS certificate and a Passport.

Surely more dangerous to race wheel to wheel than to sprint somewhere on your own?
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Old 20-10-17, 09:08
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I don't understand the need for a log book? One over keen scrute got very upetty about the owner name name being updated on ours. If I was dual driving some else's car my name wouldn't be on that log book so what's the differance? I could borrow my neighbours grans car and enter could I not? If I make a home built special and the car meets the blue book spec then surely it's OK? What purpose does the log book serve? ( sorry if I'm being naive )
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Old 20-10-17, 09:17
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I don't understand the need for a log book? One over keen scrute got very upetty about the owner name name being updated on ours. If I was dual driving some else's car my name wouldn't be on that log book so what's the differance? I could borrow my neighbours grans car and enter could I not? If I make a home built special and the car meets the blue book spec then surely it's OK? What purpose does the log book serve? ( sorry if I'm being naive )
only one point to raise here Ed, a home built car that complies with the blue book. Even factory spec cars have fallen foul of this so who checks they do comply? A logbook goes a little way having it inspected.

Just saying and as always i am sure i am wrong.
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Old 20-10-17, 09:40
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But if I modify the homebuilt car over time the log book would still be the same and the scrutineers would still have to approve it complies at each meeting..?
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Don't scrutineers add endorsements to log books in the event of an off so that any damage doesn't go unnoticed at future events? Having said that, circuit racers endure more possible damage than cars in speed events and they don't have log books.
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Don't scrutineers add endorsements to log books in the event of an off so that any damage doesn't go unnoticed at future events? Having said that, circuit racers endure more possible damage than cars in speed events and they don't have log books.
...but surely even if they didn't endorse the log book the car has to be scutineered at the next event anyway and any un-repaired damage would be noticed.

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...but surely even if they didn't endorse the log book the car has to be scutineered at the next event anyway and any un-repaired damage would be noticed.

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Exactly my point
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