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Old 13-01-18, 07:15
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Old 14-01-18, 01:28
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mmmm, remember all the flappage about having to provide a means of taking a fuel sample from the car (think it involved having to fit a non return quick fit)...when was the last time you saw any such check at a sprint/hillclimb event ?
Yes, it was a spillprove quick release coupling fitted close to the injectors with a 300mm (or thereabouts) sample pipe.
The only time that I ever used it was for draining the tank over the winter.
I haven't even bothered to look to see if that rule is still in existence, the QRC is still on the car though I suspect the sample pipe is a bit dusty and perished and hiding somewhere in the depths of my toybox.
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Old 14-01-18, 10:02
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Yes, rule is still on the books. Coupling doesn't have to be near the injectors though (mine is on the floor where the rear seats used to be, just in front of the fuel tank).
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Fuel sampling valve only required if you enter an MSA-titled championship.
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Old 14-01-18, 18:41
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For existing vehicles that is correct, but for new build vehicles you need to have the facility to take fuel samples. J 5.13.7 is the regulation :

"With the exception of cars competing in Sprint and Hill Climb road going production category, cars competing in British and MSA Titled Championships for, and all new build cars for, Rallycross, Car Racing, Special Stage Rallying, Sprints and Hill Climbs must be equipped with the facility to enable a fuel sample to be taken. For fuel injected cars the facility must be a dry break fuel sampling coupling, approved by the FIA, Competitors must carry and make available a 300mm minimum length of hose to which, where necessary, the appropriate mating part is to be attached."
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Old 14-01-18, 20:28
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reading that you could add methanol to forecourt fuel that will significantly increase octane and you could argue the petrol is added to make it visible while on fire, you would need to map the engine to take advantage of possible power gains
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Old 14-01-18, 21:55
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Except using methanol as an additive to gasoline would contravene the "only additives for lead replacement" rule and using gasoline as an additive to methanol would make it not comply with BS506.
And given methanol is 109 RON and 89 MON, then why not just use FIA fuel at 102 RON and 90 MON and save yourself a lot of bother.
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Old 15-01-18, 19:00
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Can anyone please point to where it says we can use FIA appendix J Art252 fuel?

I've had a look through both section J and S of this years Bluebook and can't spot anything.

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Old 15-01-18, 19:20
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Not quite - if you read the definition of pump fuel in the 2018 BB Sect.B - which is new for this year - the table in Appendix 1 which gives the RON & MON you quote refers to fuel from "UK roadside filling stations". The definition goes on to state that fuel to FIA App.J Art 252 article 9 is acceptable - which is 102 RON & 90 MON.
As above - it's in Section B in the definition of "pump fuel".
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Thanks Biggles - found it now. That's what I'll be using.
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