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Old 16-04-18, 13:02
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ROPS Material Requirments

MSA have changed the Sports Racing Car and Single Seater ROPS requirements

https://www.msauk.org/assets/rulechangesapril2018.pdf
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Old 16-04-18, 13:50
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Indeed!
Just looked at them and have checked the Lola, all ok.
I think there was some talk of some detail changes last year during the discussion.
Hope this is IT for ever.
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Old 16-04-18, 14:18
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They have reduced the requirement for Sports Racing Cars from 48.3mm x 2.5mm to 45mm x 2.5mm
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Old 16-04-18, 14:58
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I bet those who remade their ROPS to 48.3mm diameter over the last 2 years are ecstatic
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Old 16-04-18, 15:00
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Especially as you would need to make it in 50mm as 48.3mm CDS is as rare as hens teeth as I understand it. Single seater requirements have reduced as well.
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Old 16-04-18, 15:25
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I'm absolutely feckin' delirious. If I had just left the car in the garage for two years it would have saved me a small fortune. Don't anyone mention this to my wife or she'll have the other one as well.....
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Old 16-04-18, 15:53
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This isn't new news. The discussion on allowing the reduced diameter tubes was included at the time of the whole ROPS saga with the constructors/MSA meeting, with the MSA saying then that they'll look into allowing the smaller tubes.

Without wanting to sound like I'm defending the MSA (I'm not), I think this shows they have done something, albeit taking a while (Way too long). And in that time unfortunately there are folk who shelled out on new ROPS when they wouldn't necessarily have needed to now.
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Old 16-04-18, 16:01
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This isn't new news (And pretty sure it was discussed on here at the end of last year). The discussion on allowing the reduced diameter tubes was if I remember correctly, conducted at the time of the whole ROPS saga with the constructors/MSA meeting, with the MSA saying then that they'll look into allowing the smaller tubes.

Without wanting to sound like I'm defending the MSA (I'm not), I think this shows they have done something, albeit taking a while (Way too long). And in that time unfortunately there are folk who shelled out on new ROPS when they wouldn't necessarily have needed to now.

What would be great to see from the MSA is a structured and thought-out "Road map" of how they want to progress safety and likely regulation changes so we can plan our expenditure and vehicle mods rather than the previous knee-jerk process we've all witnessed.

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The fact they have come to this decision should be welcomed I guess but at the same time it's not acceptable that it has taken so long to be implemented.
I'm sure this could have been done at the time and save a lot of people, myself included a bloody fortune, even though I bet some manufacturers (not all) have made a lot of money out of the whole debacle.
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Old 16-04-18, 20:05
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The changes to K.1.6.4 are draconian to say the least since there are a no. of classes that specifically reference that section.

Anyone fancy entering a hillclimb supersports? see S.10.1.4, or how about a trials car see T.12.2. And that's before you consider that the whole clubmans series has apparently been blown out of the water because their regs - for which the MSA have granted a permit - specifically require K.1.6.4(b) which no longer exists!

I don't remember any prior notice that this was going to happen for the current season.
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