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Old 20-10-17, 12:32
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My old 911 has a log book, I think it is even an RAC one!
My Impreza had one, and my Lola has one too.
I had an off in the Lola 3 years ago at Prescott and the examination notes were added to the Book.
Sometimes the content is noticed and the date too, and that is that.

The log book is a very simple affair, done about 8 years ago.
Seems a pointless document to me except to ensure a failure gets checked at a later event.

Today, the insurance issue across Europe has it's last day for public opinion.
If there is a law introduced for unlimited insurance for drivers of race cars, then we will have no sport to do and a log book etc (inc circuit boys) will be irrelevant, and your race car will be possibly scrap value unless it is a road car, or just keep it as a nostalgic memento of the Good Old Days.

Now, THAT is being discriminated against!
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Old 20-10-17, 18:53
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I remember a debate about log books years ago - the MSA position was that they were there to identify the vehicle but there wasn't a satisfactory answer as to why rally cars needed one when they have to be road registered and MOT'd but race cars which didn't have to be either road registered nor MOT'd didn't need one ...
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Old 20-10-17, 22:11
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And the only upside with rally cars having a logbook is with the MSA clamping down on rollcages that aren't up to their satisfaction, yet made by many reputable motrosport companies, is that when that rule was introduced we don't have to go and shell out for a new rollcage that's 1mm thicker than what was there already.

Money. That's all it's about.

Having said that, I was under the impression all competing vehicles had logbooks anyway regardless of whether it was speed or rally or circuit racing
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Old 21-10-17, 11:00
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When I had my road-going/trackday Lotus Elan I did get it Log Booked prior to using it in speed events. During that initial inspection the Scrutineers pointed out a couple of minor issues (e.g. not enough yellow tape on one of the battery leads!) which I noted and corrected prior to competition. At events having the MSA Log Book did save me having to make sure I had the MoT/Insurance documentation with me as I never actually ran it in Road-going.
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It also will give provenance in the future, should any of the hills sprints cars become valuable, does prove it's the same car. This is the famous Elan owned by Golden Tonsils Wilkinson back in the day
Certainly would help in tracking down if a car you are buying has had a major repair at some point too, so useful imho
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Old 21-10-17, 18:11
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I have had logbooked cars for years and can count on the fingers of one hand the number of times I have actually been asked for it by a Scrutineer.
A complete and total waste of time.
If we have to have them, then Scrutineers should without fail insist on checking it every time.
Now I have a Passport, which caused no end of grief and expense to get - been looked at once in seven events this year !
Another farce.
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Yellow Earth lead. That would be Sid Hanson then Steve?
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The Mygales never came with log books, and since I've had the passport its been asked for and looked at, at every event since.

Now I've come to change the wings, I've been told I need to send new pics off to 'update it'
#moreexpense
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The Mygales never came with log books, and since I've had the passport its been asked for and looked at, at every event since.

Now I've come to change the wings, I've been told I need to send new pics off to 'update it'
#moreexpense
Will that not be free Graham?
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The Mygales never came with log books, and since I've had the passport its been asked for and looked at, at every event since.

Now I've come to change the wings, I've been told I need to send new pics off to 'update it'
#moreexpense
Now here's a point...at what stage do we have to send new pics off with the logbook? As Graham says he changed the wings and had to re-submit new photos, but what if it's only the end plates that are changed(or something else very minor), as is often the case with DIY developments?
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