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Old 01-06-16, 21:47
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More Crazy Rules Changes *Methanol*

Now they want to out law Methanol for Forced Induction Libre and Racing Cars on safety grounds

10.5.2. Sports Libre and Racing Cars. Only pump fuel or
methanol may be used. When using methanol, the
addition of 10% by volume of Propanone is allowable
(Note J.5.13.6).
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(b) With the exception of Period Defined Vehicles A-E,
vehicles using Forced Induction are prohibited from using
methanol.

Reason: Due to the increased power achieved
through methanol use it is considered, on safety
grounds, that its use in Forced Induction
vehicles should be prohibited.

The delayed introduction allows current vehicles
to be altered to suit the change of fuel.
Implementation: 1st January 2018

https://www.msauk.org/assets/2016apr...nsultation.pdf

800bhp V8 no worries 600bhp 4 Pot with a turbo or 400bhp motorbike engine with a supercharger no thank you that's far too dangerous!
Are they smoking crack down at the MSA???

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Old 01-06-16, 22:02
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Aaaaaaaaaaaaaargh.
Methanol is of particular use because it keeps the inlet charge much lower. It does provide extra power but when used a straight fuel substitute without a lot of other changes this increase isn't large.
It DOES mean that if you are red flagged you can run again because the engine is cool enough. It does allow double drives. It avoids the need for garden blowers to cool the car in the paddock.
But the interesting question is - why after all these years is this proposal coming forward now? Vested interests perhaps?
As for banning it on the basis of providing extra power - much more logical is to restrict engine size. Just who is dreaming these things up and why?
Just checked - it is 1st June not 1st April.........
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Old 01-06-16, 22:24
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Ask the Speed Committee why this is so?
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Old 01-06-16, 22:31
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Old 01-06-16, 22:38
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WTF !
Looks like my car will never go again then
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I know I can get lots more power than I have now using petrol but I will need to spend lots more money.
Or maybe I could do what some do and use expensive illegal fuel.
what a load of nonsense.
Maybe I should go back to bikes.
Allan

I dont think this will affect many people so I am sure it will go through

One more point I have included in my email to the MSA " If its not safe to use methanol then why am I allowed to use it now and for the next year and a half ? "
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Old 02-06-16, 00:48
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Do the MSA know the slightest thing about cars, engines, power, racing... ?
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If they are calling it a safety enhancement then it must be sensible, and pushed through to become legislation. The sport must get safer every year.......it's the future....when the sport has no competitors left it will be very safe!
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Old 02-06-16, 08:07
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If they are calling it a safety enhancement then it must be sensible, and pushed through to become legislation. The sport must get safer every year.......it's the future....when the sport has no competitors left it will be very safe!
The "safety enhancement " element is probably something to do with methanol being highly carcinogenic.
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Old 02-06-16, 08:10
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Is it only carcinogenic in forced induction engines?
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